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正文翻译Vitamin D supplementation to the older adult population in Germany h

 

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Vitamin D supplementation to the older adult population in Germany has the cost-saving potential of preventing almost 30,000 cancer deaths per year

对照实验显示：给老年人补充维生素D可以节约成本，预计在德国每年可预防近3万例癌症死亡评论翻译mule_roany_mareConsidering the balance of vitamin D & melanoma drive skin color vitamin D is pretty important.

考虑到维生素D和黑色素瘤的平衡构成了我们的肤色，维生素D是相当重要的。

MydogsblackassholeMelanin? Melanoma is cancer你想说黑色素吧?黑色素瘤是癌症mule_roany_mareYup.Melanin protects you from melanoma & other skin cancers, but limits your ability to synthesize the D.

是的皮肤中的黑色素可以保护你免受黑色素瘤和其他皮肤癌的伤害，但却限制了你合成维生素D的能力DisplacedPersons12interesting theory, Ill admit its convincing. why else would lighter skin be naturally sexted in spite of its increased risk of cancer?。

有趣的理论，我承认它很有说服力。不然自然不会筛选出浅色皮肤，尽管浅色皮肤增加了患皮肤癌的风险?

FirstStealth9Yes, I remember reading that fish nutrients were extremely important in early European diets. Salmon, herring, sardines, and cod are all fish in the early European diets that are high in Vitamins A & D. The early Scandinavians even produced and consumed cod liver oil during the winter months. It was later discovered that cod liver oil could be used to treat Vitamin D deficiency, fight rickets, and treat rheumatism. The Vikings were really ahead of their time!

是的，我记得我读过一篇文章，说早期欧洲人的饮食中，鱼的营养非常重要鲑鱼、鲱鱼、沙丁鱼和鳕鱼都是早期欧洲人饮食中富含维生素A和维生素D的鱼类早期的斯堪的纳维亚人甚至在冬季生产和消费鱼肝油后来人们发现鱼肝油可以用来治疗维生素D缺乏症，治疗佝偻病和风湿病。

维京人真的走在了时代的前面!pangeccI lived in Estonia (Finland neighbor) you have to take vitamin D. There’s no sun for most of winter and if you don’t you’ll get stick all the time.

我住在爱沙尼亚(芬兰的邻居)，你必须服用维生素D冬天的大部分时间都没有阳光，如果你不服用的话，你就会一直生病ciupenhauerwhat did your grandparents use for food in winter to make up for this?。

你的祖父母在冬天用什么食物来补充维生素D?pangeccI lived all of my life in portugal. We get sun year around. I was in Estonia during the dark season. There’s was no “sun” between November until feb.

我一直生活在葡萄牙我们一年到头都有太阳我在爱沙尼亚住过一段时间，正值黑暗季节，11月到2月这段时间没有“太阳”Aethenositydrinking inhibits absorption of vitamin D (reduced amount in your blood)。

喝酒会抑制维生素D的吸收(减少血液中的维生素D)WookardI am in Alberta and they stopped testing for vitamin d deficiencies as they just assume every person is deficient. I was recommended by multiple doctors to take 3000 iu a day. It sure helps me keep focus, energy, mood and memory as well.

我在加拿大阿尔伯塔省，医生已经停止检测是否缺乏维生素d，因为他们认为每个人都缺乏维生素d很多医生建议我每天服用3000IU的维生素D维生素D确实能帮助我保持注意力、精力、情绪和记忆力Spiritual_sciene。

The consumer unx in the Netherlands have released a reviewof many vit D supplements being way too high as they have more than the recommended 400 IU (10 mcg).

Whoo, watch out that dont get adequate levels from taking too much.荷兰消费者联盟发布了一份评论，称许多维生素D补充剂的含量过高，超过了推荐的400IU(10微克)。

小心别因为吃太多补充剂而摄入过量维生素DSchimpansenKobraVitamin D is a hormone and we dont fully understand what its doing in the body. It has some properties of steroids like cortisone and may suppress the immune system in excess.。

I would be careful with supplementation, just as I would be careful with other medication. Did you know high dose antioxidants may infer with your bodies ability to kill cancer cells? E.g. vitamin A supplementation increases lung cancer risk.

维生素D是一种激素，我们还不完全了解它在人体内的作用它有一些类固醇的特性，就像可的松，过度摄入维生素D，可能会抑制免疫系统我会小心使用维生素D，就像我小心使用其他药物一样你知道高剂量的抗氧化剂可能会降低你身体杀死癌细胞的能力吗?。

例如:过量补充维生素A会增加患肺癌的风险。

AmlethusI appreciate your comment because I supplement with D3 and live in an area known for D deficiency. I have considered taking more than one 3000IU capsule if it could help me, but I do not know enough about the toxicity risk. While Im about to go do some research for myself, could you also recommend some sources for learning about how much vitamin D my body might produce in the sun, and whether exogenous supplementation is different than endogenous generation in terms of safety in quantity?

感谢您的评论，我正在服用维生素D3，而且生活在一个普遍缺乏维生素D的地区如果可以的话，我考虑每天多服用一粒3000IU的维生素D胶囊，但是我对它的毒性风险了解不够我正在找资料做研究，你能不能也推荐一些资料，说明身体在阳光下能合成多少维生素D，外源性补充维生素D和内源性补充维生素D在数量上是否不同?。

la_nirnaI was highly deficient in vitamin D 2 years ago and despite summer being ahead, my doctor prescribed me 20000UI daily for 4 weeks, 20000UI weekly for 2 months and 20000UI monthly for 3 months.

2年前，我严重缺乏维生素D，尽管夏天即将到来，我的医生让我每天服用20000IU维生素D，连续吃4周，然后转为每周吃20000UI维生素D，连续2个月，然后转为每月吃20000UI维生素D，连续3个月momomola_

have MS and there has been shown to be a strong correlation between vitamin D deficiency and rate of MS amongst a given population. So much so that any neurologist will tell you to start taking vitamin D as soon as you are diagnosed with MS. My understanding was that at most latitudes, spending time in the sun won’t get you close to the amount of vitamin D that is beneficial. I take 4000 IU daily now that my vit D levels are in a good place (I have blood taken monthly), after having previously dosed at 10000 daily.

我患有多发性硬化症，在特定人群中，维生素D缺乏和多发性硬化症的发病率有很强的相关性以至于任何神经学家都会告诉你，一旦你被诊断出患有多发性硬化症，就要开始服用维生素D我的理解是，在大多数纬度地区，晒太阳不会让你获得足够的维生素D。

我每天服用4000 IU维生素D，现在我的维生素D水平在一个很好的范围(我每月血检)，以前服用的剂量为10000 IU每天IrishcanoliTaking an excess of vitamins is not helpful in preventing disease (most of the time, i’m sure there are exceptions) and can be dangerous with certain vitamins (i.e. excess K).

Edit: Take you’re vitamins if you need them, but talk to your doctor about what you should be taking.

服用过量的维生素对预防疾病没有帮助(大多数时候是这样的，我相信也有例外)，而且某些维生素(如过量的维生素K)对人体是有害的编辑:如果你需要服用维生素，请和你的医生谈谈你应该服用什么gannerMy doctor has me on 5000 IU/day and Ive been taking it for 3 years. I get tested regularly and havent ever had too-high levels.。

我的医生让我每天服用5000IU维生素D，我已经服用3年了我定期做检查，从来没有过维生素D过度摄入的问题problematicbeingSame 5000 a day has my levels mid normal.。

同样，每天5000IU维生素D让我处于正常水平silverteepeeI always draw a vitamin D level on patients and most are low. I shoot to achieve levels between 50 and 75 for people. It takes most patients at least 3 months to get their levels up to where I want them when they are low. You need a vitamin D level to identify the appropriate dosage though.。

我总是给病人检测维生素D水平，大多数人都很低我的目标是达到50到75的水平大多数患者需要至少3个月的时间才能达到我想要的水平你需要根据维生素D水平来确定合适的剂量the_Moons_side_boobThe problem here is that vitamin D supplementation seem to have little effect on cancer (though this can of course change with future studies). What most Vit D studies miss is that Vit D is a cofounder in a lot of cases. Old age and disease led to low vitamin D levels, but are not necessarily caused by low vitamin D levels.

Thats why many studies show correlation between ill health and inadequate vitamin D, but shows little improvement when given vitamin D as a supplement

这里的问题在于，补充维生素D似乎对癌症没有什么影响(尽管未来的研究可能会改变这一结论)很多关于维生素的研究遗漏了一点，即可能是因为年老和疾病导致人体的维生素D水平降低而不是因为维生素D水平降低，才导致了老年疾病。

这就是为什么许多研究表明健康不佳与维生素D不足之间存在关联，但当补充维生素D后却收效甚微scarfarceThere are many studies that show vitamin D has no benefit on various diseases.。

有许多研究表明维生素D对治疗各种疾病没有效果。

louderharderfasterBack in April, when I first read that Vit D mitigated the severity and number of symptoms of Covid -19 (and I took a job as an essential worker) I began taking it daily. A few weeks later I was a different person and the only thing I changed was taking 3,000 UI of Vit D. My depression lifted and I had better energy and focus.

I had been ignoring my doctors suggestion to take it every day for a few years. Now I know better.今年4月，当我第一次读到维生素D可以减轻新冠症状和数量时，我开始每天服用维生素D。

几周后，我变了一个人，自从接受每天摄入3000 IU的维生素D治疗我的抑郁症减轻了，我有了更好的精力和注意力我几年来一直无视医生的建议，现在我每天服用维生素D就像变了一个人一样DutchMitchell。

Good for you! I did the same thing though, but did not feel any change.那你很棒哦!我也做了同样的事情，但没有感觉到任何变化RigidWater。

There is quite a bit of evidence that a vitamin D deficiency causes severe mood disorders as well.有相当多的证据表明维生素D缺乏也会导致严重的情绪障碍。

aggressive_serveCorrelation does not mean causation. From the conclusion youve quoted above, it may simply mean that vitamin D deficiency is a marker of sever mood disorders. From that research alone, you cannot conclude that prescribing vitamin D supplements can resolve mood disorders.

相关性并不意味着因果关系从你上面引用的结论来看，这可能仅仅意味着维生素D缺乏是导致严重情绪障碍的一个因素你不能得出结论说，补充维生素D可以解决情绪障碍gordonjames62I would also think mood disorder keep you inside and under the covers.。

Low chance of getting a tan (or vit. D) inside我认为，患有情绪障碍的人会很少出门接触太阳的几率很低，因此体内维生素D的含量很低misfortunecookies。

Thats exactly what I believe. I have a lot of experience with this population (I lived in a group home for the mentally ill) and the #1 hobby of people with mental illness is hiding under their covers in the darkness and never going outside.

Being outside correlates with higher Vit.D levels, going outside more means walking more, interacting with people more, petting more neighborhood puppers. It means you dont hate yourself and arent afraid to be judged.

我相信这个推论我和这类人群相处过很多次(我住在管理精神病患者的教养院)，精神病患者的头号爱好就是躲在暗处，从不出门经常身处室外的人，体内的维生素D水平基本都很高更多的外出意味着更多的步行，更多的与人互动，更多的抚摸邻居的小狗。

这意味着你不讨厌自己，也不害怕被别人评判

unravel_the_gravelDo your due diligence if taking vitamin D, apparently it needs to be supplemented with Vitamin K so the body absorbs the calcium correctly.

如果你在服用维生素D，显然还需要补充维生素K，这样身体才能很好地吸收钙Sam1967Meanwhile in the Netherlands .... our foresighted and infallible government took Vitamin A and D daily supplements off the base health insurance in 2019. If you are prescribed the monthly tablet vitamin D tablet thats still covered for now, otherwise you are expected to go down the store and buy them. We all know how well thats going to work for older people on a limited pension。

我们有远见的荷兰政府，在2019年从基本医疗保险中取消了维生素A和维生素D，如果医生给你开的是每月服用的维生素D片，那你就得去商店买了，用有限的养老金，这个政策对老年人来说是多么有用omepietOn the other hand, I just bought my parents several years worth of vitamin D supply for 35 euro. It is not exactly expensive .。

我刚花35欧元给我父母买了够几年用的维生素D它其实并不贵greyuniwaveVitamin-d work in synergy and magnesium. Magnesium deficiency is very common. increasing vitamin-d will increase the use of magnesium。

维生素D和镁具有协同作用缺镁是非常普遍的现象增加维生素d的同时要增加镁的摄入量，mkdrThat is what I actually read before, someone suggested taking Vitamin D could lead to a magnesium shortage or could boost a long time magnesium shortage and that could lead to high pulse and blood pressure rise. I also read that it could take 6 to 12 months to get rid of it.。

我之前读到的，有人说服用维生素D可能会导致镁缺乏或者导致长期镁缺乏，这可能会导致脉搏升高和血压升高。我还读到说要花6到12个月才能让负面影响消失。

mkdrsadly it is magnesium oxide, yes.不幸的是，我吃的就是氧化镁greyuniwavemalate, glycinate & citrate are better options.。

苹果酸，甘氨酸和柠檬酸是更好的选择mkdrVery interesting... :/ So it might be when I take artificial Vitamine D, that my Calcium levels rise and this leads to heart race pulse and blood pressure increase?。

非常有趣，所以当我服用维生素D时，我血液中的钙浓度上升，从而导致心跳加速、脉搏和血压升高?

brennenderopaVitamin D or D3 is the new cure-all pushed aggressively to the market. It was already pushed hard in 2011 but hard evidence for vitamin D health claims remains lacking to this day. A lot of may, can, could but not many robust results. If you are deficient, yes it may be beneficial. But no one has evidence if being old and frail is the reason for being vitamin d deficient or if it is the other way round.

维生素D或D3是推向市场的新“灵丹妙药”早在2011年，人们就已经开始大力推广维生素D，但至今仍缺乏证明维生素D有益健康的确凿证据很多“可能”、“也许”、“大概”的测试结论都不太可靠是的，维生素D可能是有益的。

但是，没有证据表明是疾病导致了维生素D水平下降，还是维生素D水平下降导致了疾病

4nwRHow much is too much?多少算是过量?

SatmatziNay, the postponing of 30,000 deaths per year...每年推迟3万老年人死亡…

revision0Does it prevent the cancer or just the death?Keeping people with cancer alive longer is not really a benefit to society.

We all pay more for them to die more slowly.If it eliminates or prevents the cancer altogether wonderful.

However just keeping people with cancer alive longer is not productive.维生素D是预防癌症还是延缓癌症患者死亡?让癌症患者活得更长对社会没有好处。

我们付出更多资源，只是让他们死得慢一些。如果维生素D能完全消除或预防癌症那就太好了。然而，仅仅让癌症患者活得更长并没有什么用。

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